Monckton responds to “potholer54” (2012-01-11). Anthony Watts really needs to think about who he associates with. Sure, the comical/pompous/paranoid attention-whore Lord Monckton will bring web hits, but it’s the bad kind of attention. It shows that you’re all about politics and shouting and not about thinking.
In this case Monckton’s guest post is about the “silly allegations” on YouTube of
a former “science writer” who uses a speleological pseudonym “potholer54″ [to] sneeringly deliver a series of petty smears about artfully-distorted and often inconsequential aspects of my talks on climate change.
Monckton does a good job of obscuring his argument, but if you strip away the pompous weaselly word play, his 2334 word response to the boils down to yeah, but… and because I said so. So little payoff for so many words. And long ones too!
So what can we determine from Monckton’s post? Well clearly potholer54’s penetrating observations have hit home with the thin-skinned Viscount, particularly because he goes to such effort to minimize them. The funny thing is that Monckton’s posts serve as “kick me” signs, his flowery attempts to dismiss his critics simply point us to where his claims are most effectively destroyed. You just know that getting to the bottom of his arch reference in this same post to a “no-account non-climatologist at a fourth-rank bible college in Nowheresville” is going to be worth the Googling (we covered it here).
Viscount, shouldn’t you keep quiet about where your arguments are so neatly skewered? We know that you love the spotlight and the sound of your own voice, but you’re really not helping yourself.
Anthony Watts helpfully provides the real name of the “potholer54” YouTube account holder in case his readers want to make their life miserable.
Wott's Up With That? 
God is Homo-stupidus still around? That’s is a sure sign that evolution can go backwards. Perhaps it’s the psycho symptons of that incurable Graves disease which he can cure – hey presto! Please…….keep him away from down under – poor old codger.
[I’m afraid he seems to have a strange attraction to Oz. – Ben]
Just like Chicken pox he never goes away, he just sits there at the base and is guaranteed to cause horrible rashes from time to time.
The fastest way to know that a writer knows nothing about the science of climate change is when he or she cites Monckton or Plimmer as an authority. Of all of the denialist strategies, bringing up Monckton or Plimmer is the one that I have the most difficulty comprehending.
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And next….time for a ritual attack on Al Gore…..
[It all does seem rather atavistic. – Ben]
A couple of his great lines:
Kind of like saying there has been no sunshine today at 12:15AM
Formally? Does that mean he’s going to submit a paper for peer review to an established journal? Stay tuned!
[Promises, promises. – Ben]
Aah the usual cry of ‘peer review’, the predictable mantra of the unsicentific alarmists, knowing full well that mainstream science and the relative institutions are controlled by the globalists pushing the AGW scam.
One of the fastest ways to know that a writer knows nothing about the science of climate change is when the completely avoid the overwhelming scientific evidence that significant man made global warming is a scam, like the lack of mid tropospheric hotspot, the fact that mediaeval Warm Period was warmer than today, the fact that CO2 lags behind temperature by 800 years (and using statistical cheats by averaging the hemispheres that have different temporal relationships to the heat transfer to create a CO2 leading role is criminal) showing Temperature drives CO2 rise, the fact that there is no empirical human signal in the climate trend (the 70s to 98 incline has been repeated many times, even before the turn of the century), the fact that it hasn’t warmed for 17 years, the lack od sea level rise increase, the lack of sea temperature increase for the past 60 years, the fact that solar activity matches temperature cycles in the climate record, as does cloud cover (albedo effect), and the general fact that the IPCC’s GCMs’ predictions are multiple times the actual temperature showing that CO2 has negative feedbacks.
Of all the science denier, Alarmist strategies, avoidance of the facts and science is the one that I have the most difficulty comprehending, oh wait, i do understand. They’re either criminals, gutless globalist sycophants, or suffering extreme religious cognitive dissinance.
[Feel good to get that off your chest? Complete load of delusional, paranoid, bullshit of course. – Ben]
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
– Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.
[Lorem ipsum clavum in caput (You’ve hit the nail on the head). – Ben]
The best argument against the mad monk is his claim to have cured AIDS ‘a fiortori’ negates all following statements.
If Latin was a part of everday usage thugs such as he would have been ignored long ago.
Perhaps Latin does provide the best descriptor for his Lordship….Ad nauseum.
latine scripto a fuckwitus adhuc fuckwitus
[Lucky for you I can’t remember the URL for Google’s Latin translator – Ben]
OK now you made me go watch potholer’s videos on “lord”. Normally I skip anything doing with the monc because theres not much to learn and it is kinda just going after the low hanging fruit. But one thing about potholer he sure does a thorough job. He along with green man do an excellent job.
The first link goes to”Monckton responds (part 2/2)”, which contains the ‘conclusions’.
The ‘responses’ are in “Monckton responds (part 1/2)”. The distinction isn’t obvious, and there is some overlap. But don’t miss it. It’s over twice as long.
http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54#p/a/u/1/9K74fzNAUq4
Enthusiasts will want to spend 70 more minutes watching potholer54’s original Monckton Bunkkum 5-part series. On the right side of the youtube page, click on the “see all” below his ‘climatechange(19)’ section.
What keeps amazing me is that “skeptics” somehow find the time to read pages and pages of “climategate” emails (must be boring stuff to read) but do not have the time to watch 70 minutes of Potholers videos……
OK. Fine. But has anyone thought that maybe he told Maggie that it was raining and she should take an umbrella ( as an iron lady she could rust). A discount viscount looking into a mirror could easily imagine this as advising on climate change.
John McManus
I happened to (after many months of ignoring WUWT) click on that story, and saw there were no comments yet. So I wrote “Is this site really still serving as a clearing house for this demagogue?” – I just checked: it never made it through moderation.
Christopher Monckton’s only hope is that people won’t compare his version to potholer54’s.
His list is in the same order as “Monckton responds(part1/2)”. Beginning times are shown.
0:32___”…he advised Margaret Thatcher on climate change…”
0:52___”…he wrote a peer reviewed paper…”
1:27___”…the Earth is cooling…”
2:56___”…Greenland is not melting…”
3:40___”…there’s no systematic loss of sea-ice in the Arctic…”
4:27___”…there has been no correlation between temperature and CO2 for 500 million years…”
5:26___”…a pre-Cambrian ice planet shows CO2 has no effect…”
6:40___”…there had been no change in the Himalayan glaciers for 200 years…”
8:13___”…only one Himalayan glacier has been retreating…”
11:13___”…Dr. Pinker found that a loss of cloud cover had caused recent warming…”
Perhaps he’s finally lost the plot completely. It was one thing to take on Abrahams – after all he’d written a pretty long piece and you have to pay attention to get the full meaning.
But Potholer’s videos are simply put together, clearly explained, nicely illustrated, always explicitly and exactly linked . You absolutely cannot miss getting the message.
(- unless you spend the whole time trying to skip or fast forward I suppose.)
What do you expect from an overcooked prawn?
Tilting at windmills is he?
Extract from the book “Don Quixote” by Miguel de Cervantes
The staying power of that Monckton is incredible. Although there’s no doubting the man is superb at political theater. The tragedy is that what the Climate Change discussion needs is education and intellectual curiosity. Both sorely lacking in the Lord’s various presentations.
For my two cents worth see: “WUWT champions and cheers Monckton’s lies, fortunately Peter Hadfield gives an excellent response ” at
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2012/01/wuwt-champions-and-cheers-moncktons.html
Hadfield, in his usual measured and polite style, has the following at his youtube site
HELP !
I’m wonder if someone out there knows if anyone’s did an examination of the various claims made at the WUWT post:
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Ending with:
(i’m not bothering to link it, but you know where to find it.)
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Considering how much time has passed and nothing else has been heard regarding “tampered computer codes” seems like more smoke up the arse, still I’d love see a systematic take down of those claims – should one exist.
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Also for what it’s worth:
lord-christopher-monckton-files.html
PS. The more I reread the full text of that, the more it seems to simply be the “Hide the Decline” nonsense – the Lord sure does know how to hyper load his syntax.
In other words much ado over nothing. . . yet once again.
Go figure
Further to Potholer’s attempt to get right of reply at WUWT, his site now says:
[Funny how Anthony’s ‘generosity’ is always one-sided. – Ben]
Watts wants to control the debate through his site and he can bury Hadfield’s response in the archive where nobody will ever read it. I suspect he knows deep down that Hadfield is right which makes this behaviour doubly gormless.
What is Watts so afraid of?
Hadfield would be smart to ignore him and respond through a video. Either way Monckton’s leigons are going to ignore the response so there is no point playing Watts’ game.